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  • The H Family

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    April 28, 2021 at 2:24 pm

    @dr_petrovich and @tim

    Does Jesus’ command to “love one another” include being disrespectful to others, or insulting them on a public forum, because their views happen to be different from ours? As we noted before, many of the people who write on these forums appear to be intelligent and are trying to think through things, so this type of behavior is stooping below their caliber and, if they profess Christianity, is also contrary to the witness of a Christian.

    God is love, and it is God who sets the definition of love. Since the most perfect illustration of love is that God gave His only Son, Jesus Christ, to die for us; it’s contrary to his teachings to knowingly not warn someone that the next curve on the road takes them off the cliff, all in the name of not offending them.

    To say that someone is unloving because they warn someone about their eternal state is committing the fallacy of appeal to fear. In other words, it’s saying that if you truly loved someone you wouldn’t warn them that if they continue in their present course something bad will happen to them. The illustration above shows that this is contrary to common sense, and the Bible confirms this in Proverbs 27:6: “Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful”.

    We are not telling anyone to take what we say at face value. Go and compare it to what the Word of God says.

    Historically the Pope and the Catholic Church have not stood on a faithful interpretation of the Word of God. One can just pick up any history book and see why the Reformation started, and why God swept it across all of Europe. It’s a known fact that they tried to deliberately keep the Word of God out of peoples’ hands, and persecuted those who did have it, which was the purpose of the Inquisition. Historically they have also emphasized their Councils, which are the subjective thoughts of men. Had they wisely used the time they spent persecuting others, and actually studied the Word of God, they might have realized that Galileo was correct, and that science and the Bible are not at variance.

    We don’t personally know William Dever, and we’re certainly not going to cast a bad shadow on a man we don’t know, and who isn’t here to defend himself. However, he publicly admits that he is an agnostic, which is the same as saying that he is an unbeliever. We aren’t the ones making this judgement call; God says enough against him in His Word. If anyone wants to contend with this, they’ll have to take it up with God. He wrote The Book, not us. It wasn’t “anti-scientific” thought that led William Dever to the heretical position he takes. The Bible makes it truly clear that one thing leads a man to that position. He has suppressed the truth, denied the faith, and unless he repents will show himself to be a two-fold child of the devil. Damnation will be double for him, which is what God says about his state, because he once held to the truth, as a minister of God, and now has turned from that truth willingly. “There shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in it, and overcome, the latter end of them is worse than the beginning. For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them” (2 Peter 2:1,2, 19, 20).

    God never calls us to a blind faith. To imply that a Christian is “anti-science” is to commit the “No True Scotsman” fallacy. In other words, what this is saying is, “No truly scientific person would say/believe the things you believe, and since you do, you are anti-scientific”. The truth is history cannot be scientifically tested. Yes, history does involve science and its discoveries, but history itself cannot be scientifically tested. For something to be scientifically tested, it must be observable, measurable, and repeatable, which is something that no one on this site, or anyone else can do for history. For example, we cannot scientifically prove that George Washington was President of the United States. We cannot drop history into a test tube to measure it, nor can you observe or repeat his presidency. However, we do have reliable sources and eyewitness accounts of that presidency, and nobody today doubts that George Washington was president. We have the same scenario for the history found in God’s Word. The Bible itself is a reliable collection of historical documents, written by eyewitnesses, during the lifetime of other eyewitnesses, who record supernatural events that took place in fulfillment of specific prophecies; and their writings are divine, rather than human in origin. Anybody wishing for further explanation on this can go listen to Pastor Voddie Baucham’s sermon on “Why I believe the Bible is True”.

    https://www.sermonaudio.com/solo/gracefamilybaptist/sermons/530914253/

    As far as being a Christian and being anti-scientific, all one has to do is look at the websites of Answers in Genesis, or Creation Ministries International, or the Institute for Creation Research, among others and see the vast number of Christian scientists that stand firmly on the Word of God. Although we can’t list them all here, that would include Dr. Andrew Snelling (Ph.D in Geology), Dr. Georgia Purdom (Ph.D in Molecular Genetics), Dr. David Menton (Ph.D in Biology), Dr. Terry Mortenson (Ph.D in Geology), Dr. Jason Lisle (Ph.D in Astrophysics), Dr. Danny Faulkner (Ph.D in Astrophysics), Dr. Charles Jackson (Ph.D, holding 4 degrees in various scientific fields), Dr. Andy McIntosh (Ph.D in Thermodynamics and Mathematics), Dr. Carl Werner (Ph.D in Medicine), the late Dr. Tommy Mitchell (Ph.D in Medicine), Dr. Rob Carter (Ph. D in marine biology), Dr. Stuart Burgess (Ph.D in Mechanical Engineering and Engineering Design), Dr. Todd Wood (Ph.D in Biology), Dr. Marcus Ross (Ph.D in Paleontology), and Dr. Steven Austin (Ph.D in Gealogy). Like we said, this list is by no means exhaustive. But you get the idea. This is just a taste of the men out there who are brilliant and thoughtful scientists, yet are also devoted Christians, who stand without apology on the written Word of God.