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  • Ken Griffith

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    April 13, 2021 at 9:02 pm

    There is one more observation that I should have added to that draft above.

    The word “Egypt” is not in the Hebrew Bible, anywhere. The word translated thus is “Misraim.”

    It was not until around the time of the Ethiopian 25th Dynasty that we are told one of the kings renamed the country Egypt after himself. Herodotus writing in the fifth century before Christ tells us that the Greeks considered Egypt to only be from Memphis north to the Sea, the Nile Delta. That is what we call “Lower Egypt.”

    Canaan in Abraham’s day was ruled by Abimelech the Philistine, who was a descendant of Misraim. Egypt was also ruled by a different tribe of Misraim, and my research suggests there were separate dynasties of kings ruling in Thebes, Memphis, Herakleopolis, and Bubastis when Abraham arrived.

    The Septuagint was translated 150 years after Herodotus wrote that the Greeks consider Egypt to only be the Delta. Since the Septuagint was written for the Greeks, it would be expected to use the Greek names for geography.

    The reason the translators of the Septuagint put “Egypt and Canaan” in the place of the Hebrew “Misraim” is because they understood correctly that Abraham’s sojourn under Misraim began when the Philistines stopped up his wells, and Abimelech forced him into a vassal covenant. 1,600+ years later in third century BC Greek geography the “Misraim” of Abraham’s time was correctly described as “Canaan and Egypt.”

    Bible translators do the same thing in our time. In your Bible you will find the word “Syria” in the OT. However, that word is not in the Hebrew. It says “Aram”. In the Greek and Roman times the province formerly called “Aram” by the Israelites and “Amurru” by the Egyptians and Assyrians, was called “Syria” by the Greeks and Romans, and still is to this very day.

    Furthermore, the Levant was ruled by the kings of Thebes for most of the two millennia before Christ. After Joseph’s death Sesostris III conquered the Levant and set up a college of priests on the Euphrates River, which probably was the city known as Carchemish.

    In the Exodus, the Egyptians lost control of the Levant. But Thutmose III of Dynasty 18 reconquered it. Several biblical scholars such as David Down agreed with Velikovsky that Thutmose III was the “Shishak” or “robber” who broke Solomonic Israel into four countries, Judah, Israel, Edom, and Moab, and put them all under him as vassals. He then conquered all the way to Carchemish.

    Centuries later, Rameses II also conquered all the way to Carchemish, or at least he tried. Shoshenq I also conquered all the way into modern Syria, although I would date his campaign in the same year as Jeroboam II’s defeat of the Syrians.

    The reason the Assyrians still referred to parts of Syria as “Musri” is that it was ruled in some form by Misraim for about 1200 of the previous 1500 years until the 25th dynasty gave the Delta the name “Egypt”.